I have done one Schizophrenia Simulation before, but it was solely audio based and it lasted about an hour and a half. I learned a lot from it, but based on this simulation, I would say I am more empathetic and know more about this now than I ever have. This was marvelously constructed and it's very nice to see something so serious being taken serious, and being talked about in a serious light. I recorded my experience of this simulation, but I would highly suggest experiencing this yourself before watching any video on it at all.
I'm diagnosed schizophrenic so I decided to check it out. Even though every schizophrenic has a different experience, it is a very accurate representation of the illness and I'm glad I was medicated and stable before playing.
I'd like to ask @ChappyPine for some more information regarding this simulation, could you please suggest a platform for me to contact you on? Many Thanks - Eddie
I played this a while ago and it really helped me understand how bad schizophrenia is for someone suffering from it. This game put me in their shoes and it did not feel good. Thanks for bringing more awareness to this topic!
hey bro thats pretty cringe of you, first of s*y is what caused my horrible case of schizophrenia and I implore you not to use that word, second of all my cock and balls are itching to slather their sweaty excretions all over your sensual lips~
Went through it multiple times.. still gives me the creeps. Good experience.
But I do dare say; there's some missed opportunities.
1) What's the point of telling us to call Dr. Bleuler (think that was his name?) if we then can't? Idk what he could do to help tho. Maybe some calming words?
2) Would be cool if there was a way to a good ending. Like "took only proper dose, went to sleep" and woke up better.. Cause, that's what's helping; proper medication. While an overdose can do stuff to you..
3) Maybe being able to actually paint something on that canvas. Just to enhance the immersion a little more (not that it needs that..)
4) A few more hints as to why it's these weird demons. Why the voices keep talking about hatred, killing and stuff, especially. Basically; story. I know it's not meant to be a game, but it'd add some dept to the whole thing.
I am not the game's developer. However, I'd like to answer your points with my limited experience of mental illness, and how it can affect the human psyche. I apologize for the amount of words.
1)When you are on test medicine, you are treated as a test subject. Usually, if a test subject calls for the medicine not working to the point of being uncomfortable, they are told to get off the medicine, and in order to be a test subject you cannot take any other types of medicine that produce the same affect(as it could ruin the study). Many test subjects would rather keep trying the medication to get a reaction then call a doctor that treats them like a number and tells them to get off all medicine.
2)I don't know if you missed this point, but I'm sure you noticed the medication had no effect, which is needed to show the full range and strength of the illness. Taking it as directed would most likely produce the same result. While it is always suggested that one should stay calm and take care of oneself byu following all of the doctors orders, you might just be more mentally stable and healthy to realise that, while someone desperate for help would try anything to get better . . . many resulting to suicide. When it comes to mental illness, "good endings" result from friends and family giving the sufferer emotional strength and support, and while it's important to remember this, the simulations one main goal is to show you the experience of a desperate schizophrenic.
3)That indeed would be cool, but I think that might detract from some of the overall feelings the simulation wants you to feel, such as "You are not in control of your environment or self" and, "You are not allowed to relax". Nice idea for a game, maybe not this one ;)
4)Everyone has different kinds of deamons, most commonly sourced from childhood trauma, though that is not the case for everyone. Because of the little we know of the character, and basing on their actions, I took the "hatred, killing and stuff" to be their inner perspective of themselves. The mangled bodies could also represent themselves, but it could instead represent their view of strangers or intruders into their lives, people they feel unsafe around.
No, I'm not the developer of this game, but I understood how to answer your points from my own experiences. I hope it helped, even if it's overly wordy and nonsensical. :)
2) That's the question.. is it really 'not effective'? As far as I know, some medications worsen the sickness slightly before kicking in. Especially if it's a test medicine that does stuff to the chemical balance in the brain. Overdosing might tip the balance in the other direction, not for the better though. :D Theoretically spoken, not sure if it's correct, you may know better than me. But especially overdosing anti-psychotics can actually kill a person, from what I've heard. What if these demons are the progressing poisoning and the "bad" end is the end result (permanent brain damage)? It's a test medicine; the actual dose may be too high to begin with. Or too low - some stuff does weird things with your body if it's low-dosed. Another idea is that the demons "want" to avoid getting "killed" by the drug - thus it'd be effective to a degree, but just not enough o.o Which'd make you right again. So much room for interpretation :D
3) Up to a point, painting seemed to have helped that patient though. He/she depends on it immediately to "calm themselves". Otherwise the demons would've won long ago. Right? Idk much about Schizophrenia, but can it actually worsen to this point? Other than the drug causing it to basically explode into the patient's face. I mean.. somehow it all goes downhill after the pills are taken repeatedly.
4) Oh dear, maybe mobbing at school? Thus that labyrinth thing with *lots* of them around?
:D Also, if you're not the dev, who is? Always thought people could only upload their own stuff on here.. Heh, sorry for being a pest :D
Was quite skeptical at first, because using the word simulator binds to some responsibilities about what you are representing, but then a lot of elements were indeed present. I enjoyed the experience, this is some good work. Makes sense as a game and a simulator.
Very impressed. I went in not knowing the seriousness of the tone, but I felt it gave a likely sliver into the horrifying condition that Schizophrenia likely is. Great job dev.
I appreciate the hard work that went into creating your artistic interpretation of schizophrenia...but having worked with people with psychotic disorders, I think it's misleading to call this an "accurate simulation of schizophrenia". Doing so might bias people about an already very poorly understood disorder.
Could you please point me on my mistakes? Because I have spent quite a while to gather all possible information about schizophrenia. I am planning to lunch a project about schizophrenia again in the future. And I would like to know what, in your opinion, is not accurate here.
I think that, because schizophrenia has deep and very spectrum. I diagnosed schizophrenia and later changed to a personality disorder. schizophrenia is not just a disorder with specific symptoms. I think is more like certain behavioral group of psychotic disorders.
To me, it's more likely simultaneous flash of things that I can't figure it's real or not. It's mean I see it while I see other. And not so chaotic or satanic. But when it attached with bad memory, well, that is another story. But you think it as double reality, and accept, I don't see what's wrong. Probably acceptance is hard part.
And sometimes, extremely sad things make me feel calm and focus. I think most people doesn't understand it. It's not bearing.
you did an amazing job on this. Unfortunately everyone experiences episodes of pycosis (due to schizophrenia) very different and is unique to the persons personality upbringing childhood or traumas. But as far as my episode this was spot on and the only one that was resignating with my experience personally.
i have schizophrenia this is a very accurate simulation of what i experience during the phycosis phase of my disorder. In all actuality i was looking up videos of just schizophrenia to send to my boyfriend to help him better understand. And this is the first simulation out of about 5 i watched that i truly resignated with. He did a very awesome job especially considering not having the disorder himself. Literally had me in tears at the end because of how close it was to what i am experiencing now. You working with people with pycotic disorders is nonwhere close to knowing understanding or living through these episodes of pycosis
This was my major problem with it. Saying it's not a game, but an accurate simulation of schizophrenia, and then having the only two outcomes be submitting to your symptoms or killing yourself is basically saying, "There's no hope for you." Take it from a guy who's been on a suicide hold: it's a really fucked up thing to do. Plus, chasing down colored keys in a maze kinda screams "this is a video game." I wish someone with actual medical credentials had been involved here. This stuff could be harmful to people who are already vulnerable.
I need help! I can't seem to play the game. I downloaded it and when I tried to open the game it asked me what I wanted to open it with. I clicked word pad because it was the first thing that popped up, word pad didn't respond and I just closed the app. The file isn't an application, I think it's just the code or the the text. I'm not sure if that's suppose to happen or if I need to do something, but please help!! It looks like a really interesting game that I want to play!
Try to download both files and check if it is the same for both. What is the document name you have there? File suposed to have a winzip file. Check if you have WinZip on your computer.
Why am I unable to play? It gives me so many errors codes, EVEN IF I download the files that it says it's missing from certain directories... Am I doing something wrong? Someone please help me -_-
I got increasingly fed up with this game the more I played it. Whilst some scares are surprisingly effective (particularly ones that make use of stereo sound), it played its best cards way too early.
The fish-eye lens and constant chromatic abberation was a constant annoyance, and whilst I understand what you're trying to do by not letting us call the doctor or go against the floating text prompts, something about it isn't very engaging and made me feel like I was carting this person around to the next bit of story instead of experiencing it all for myself.
The final straw was the part with the green door and the three locks. Having to scramble through a pitch-black maze illuminated only by shambling figures coming to get you sounds like a great set up on paper, but all it amounts to is gathering them up in a conga line near the only safe light source, walking backwards and hoping that you stumble upon a key. Even if you did find a key, there'd be nowhere to get it, since you can't see in front of you until it's too late. I can't stop to draw a map or think about my next move either, since the game doesn't pause at all despite having a menu for it.
This sequence is so terrible that I struggle to beleive that it was made by the same developer as the first 20 minutes.
As for this being an accurate simulation of schizophrenia... I'm not sure. Whilst the essential elements are there, it's not worked into gameplay very well.
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creepy af... love it
I have done one Schizophrenia Simulation before, but it was solely audio based and it lasted about an hour and a half. I learned a lot from it, but based on this simulation, I would say I am more empathetic and know more about this now than I ever have. This was marvelously constructed and it's very nice to see something so serious being taken serious, and being talked about in a serious light. I recorded my experience of this simulation, but I would highly suggest experiencing this yourself before watching any video on it at all.
This game is a really intense simulation. I felt fear and sadness when playing it, things I've never felt before with another game.
I'm diagnosed schizophrenic so I decided to check it out. Even though every schizophrenic has a different experience, it is a very accurate representation of the illness and I'm glad I was medicated and stable before playing.
I got sooooo lost in that maze I thought I was never going to get out. Really good game though, very unsettling.
I downloaded the game but there's no app for it. just a .rar file and it doesn't do anything. any help?
ooooooh ok
I've been trying everything and it doesn't give me an option to unzip the rar file :/
download rinrar and make sure you have it set to unzip .rar files in the settings then open up the file and extract it and it should wourk
that worked! thanks for the help
I wish if I could support you awesome game
I think I saw vr-related stuff in the game folder (openvr).. Does that mean there's a way to .. erm.. experience it with, say, oculus rift?
(I'm actually scared of the thought :'D)
I enjoyed playing it, really fun game
Whaaaaat!!?
I'd like to ask @ChappyPine for some more information regarding this simulation, could you please suggest a platform for me to contact you on? Many Thanks - Eddie
It was an impressive game.
That felt very specific, random and story-based...like it's a game, not so much a simulation...but that was cool
An amazing simulation, although it isn't very clear what to do or where to go sometimes to progress.
Very creepy indeed.
When I click the .exe file it shows UE4 crashing and it doesent let me play...
I can't say we understood it but it was an experience :P
I played this a while ago and it really helped me understand how bad schizophrenia is for someone suffering from it. This game put me in their shoes and it did not feel good. Thanks for bringing more awareness to this topic!
It was REALLLYYYY laggy for me :(. I don't know how to fix this.
Unfortunately the game is poorly optimized for middle range computers. There is a few mistakes in code. Sorry.
this game poopoo caacaa :( i tried to drink soy and it didnt work. 0/5
hey bro thats pretty cringe of you, first of s*y is what caused my horrible case of schizophrenia and I implore you not to use that word, second of all my cock and balls are itching to slather their sweaty excretions all over your sensual lips~
hi popo caca
THIS WAS REALLY GOOD. ONE OF THE BEST HERE ON ITCH.IO.
Keep up the good work.
Went through it multiple times.. still gives me the creeps. Good experience.
But I do dare say; there's some missed opportunities.
1) What's the point of telling us to call Dr. Bleuler (think that was his name?) if we then can't? Idk what he could do to help tho. Maybe some calming words?
2) Would be cool if there was a way to a good ending. Like "took only proper dose, went to sleep" and woke up better.. Cause, that's what's helping; proper medication. While an overdose can do stuff to you..
3) Maybe being able to actually paint something on that canvas. Just to enhance the immersion a little more (not that it needs that..)
4) A few more hints as to why it's these weird demons. Why the voices keep talking about hatred, killing and stuff, especially. Basically; story. I know it's not meant to be a game, but it'd add some dept to the whole thing.
I am not the game's developer. However, I'd like to answer your points with my limited experience of mental illness, and how it can affect the human psyche. I apologize for the amount of words.
1)When you are on test medicine, you are treated as a test subject. Usually, if a test subject calls for the medicine not working to the point of being uncomfortable, they are told to get off the medicine, and in order to be a test subject you cannot take any other types of medicine that produce the same affect(as it could ruin the study). Many test subjects would rather keep trying the medication to get a reaction then call a doctor that treats them like a number and tells them to get off all medicine.
2)I don't know if you missed this point, but I'm sure you noticed the medication had no effect, which is needed to show the full range and strength of the illness. Taking it as directed would most likely produce the same result. While it is always suggested that one should stay calm and take care of oneself byu following all of the doctors orders, you might just be more mentally stable and healthy to realise that, while someone desperate for help would try anything to get better . . . many resulting to suicide. When it comes to mental illness, "good endings" result from friends and family giving the sufferer emotional strength and support, and while it's important to remember this, the simulations one main goal is to show you the experience of a desperate schizophrenic.
3)That indeed would be cool, but I think that might detract from some of the overall feelings the simulation wants you to feel, such as "You are not in control of your environment or self" and, "You are not allowed to relax". Nice idea for a game, maybe not this one ;)
4)Everyone has different kinds of deamons, most commonly sourced from childhood trauma, though that is not the case for everyone. Because of the little we know of the character, and basing on their actions, I took the "hatred, killing and stuff" to be their inner perspective of themselves. The mangled bodies could also represent themselves, but it could instead represent their view of strangers or intruders into their lives, people they feel unsafe around.
No, I'm not the developer of this game, but I understood how to answer your points from my own experiences. I hope it helped, even if it's overly wordy and nonsensical. :)
1) Makes sense o.o
2) That's the question.. is it really 'not effective'? As far as I know, some medications worsen the sickness slightly before kicking in. Especially if it's a test medicine that does stuff to the chemical balance in the brain. Overdosing might tip the balance in the other direction, not for the better though. :D Theoretically spoken, not sure if it's correct, you may know better than me. But especially overdosing anti-psychotics can actually kill a person, from what I've heard.
What if these demons are the progressing poisoning and the "bad" end is the end result (permanent brain damage)?
It's a test medicine; the actual dose may be too high to begin with. Or too low - some stuff does weird things with your body if it's low-dosed. Another idea is that the demons "want" to avoid getting "killed" by the drug - thus it'd be effective to a degree, but just not enough o.o Which'd make you right again. So much room for interpretation :D
3) Up to a point, painting seemed to have helped that patient though. He/she depends on it immediately to "calm themselves". Otherwise the demons would've won long ago. Right? Idk much about Schizophrenia, but can it actually worsen to this point? Other than the drug causing it to basically explode into the patient's face. I mean.. somehow it all goes downhill after the pills are taken repeatedly.
4) Oh dear, maybe mobbing at school? Thus that labyrinth thing with *lots* of them around?
:D Also, if you're not the dev, who is? Always thought people could only upload their own stuff on here.. Heh, sorry for being a pest :D
This was a great experience. We enjoyed it very much.
i liked this game, creeped me well enough haha, but i got almost dizzy by fish eye view xD nice work!
(talking in japanese lets play)
いいビデオです。どもありがと。私はちょっと日本語を話せます。次のゲイムは英語と露語と大韓民語と日本語に翻訳することつもりです。
こちらこそありがとうございます！日本語上手ですね、また次のゲーム楽しみにしてます！
This was terrifying. I sure as hell experienced schizophrenia.
great job.
Was quite skeptical at first, because using the word simulator binds to some responsibilities about what you are representing, but then a lot of elements were indeed present. I enjoyed the experience, this is some good work. Makes sense as a game and a simulator.
no like te game
Really good game! Honestly gave me a bit of anxiety! Made a video, hope you enjoy!
Very nice i really enjoyed this one ...Something different for a change....Very impressed. I went in not knowing the seriousness of the tone, but I felt it gave a likely sliver into the horrifying condition that Schizophrenia likely is. Great job dev.
I appreciate the hard work that went into creating your artistic interpretation of schizophrenia...but having worked with people with psychotic disorders, I think it's misleading to call this an "accurate simulation of schizophrenia". Doing so might bias people about an already very poorly understood disorder.
Could you please point me on my mistakes? Because I have spent quite a while to gather all possible information about schizophrenia.
I am planning to lunch a project about schizophrenia again in the future. And I would like to know what, in your opinion, is not accurate here.
I think that, because schizophrenia has deep and very spectrum. I diagnosed schizophrenia and later changed to a personality disorder. schizophrenia is not just a disorder with specific symptoms. I think is more like certain behavioral group of psychotic disorders.
To me, it's more likely simultaneous flash of things that I can't figure it's real or not. It's mean I see it while I see other. And not so chaotic or satanic. But when it attached with bad memory, well, that is another story. But you think it as double reality, and accept, I don't see what's wrong. Probably acceptance is hard part.
And sometimes, extremely sad things make me feel calm and focus. I think most people doesn't understand it. It's not bearing.
you did an amazing job on this. Unfortunately everyone experiences episodes of pycosis (due to schizophrenia) very different and is unique to the persons personality upbringing childhood or traumas. But as far as my episode this was spot on and the only one that was resignating with my experience personally.
i have schizophrenia this is a very accurate simulation of what i experience during the phycosis phase of my disorder. In all actuality i was looking up videos of just schizophrenia to send to my boyfriend to help him better understand. And this is the first simulation out of about 5 i watched that i truly resignated with. He did a very awesome job especially considering not having the disorder himself. Literally had me in tears at the end because of how close it was to what i am experiencing now. You working with people with pycotic disorders is nonwhere close to knowing understanding or living through these episodes of pycosis
This was my major problem with it. Saying it's not a game, but an accurate simulation of schizophrenia, and then having the only two outcomes be submitting to your symptoms or killing yourself is basically saying, "There's no hope for you." Take it from a guy who's been on a suicide hold: it's a really fucked up thing to do. Plus, chasing down colored keys in a maze kinda screams "this is a video game." I wish someone with actual medical credentials had been involved here. This stuff could be harmful to people who are already vulnerable.
I need help! I can't seem to play the game. I downloaded it and when I tried to open the game it asked me what I wanted to open it with. I clicked word pad because it was the first thing that popped up, word pad didn't respond and I just closed the app. The file isn't an application, I think it's just the code or the the text. I'm not sure if that's suppose to happen or if I need to do something, but please help!! It looks like a really interesting game that I want to play!
Try to download both files and check if it is the same for both. What is the document name you have there? File suposed to have a winzip file. Check if you have WinZip on your computer.
download winrar, It should be easely open with winrar. All files are correct.
Find your winrar and chose to open it with winrar
Are u running linux?
Are u running linux?
Install 7zip, then right-click the file and click 7-zip > Extract Here
if youre trying for a phone. Go to google and search apps you can use to play computer games on phones
Man this was a trip! thanks for making this game and bringing around more attention to mental health issues!
I look forward to your future stuff
Really enjoyed this game for it's creativity and education. Can't wait to see what you come up with next! Keep up the great work. C.P.
Why am I unable to play? It gives me so many errors codes, EVEN IF I download the files that it says it's missing from certain directories... Am I doing something wrong? Someone please help me -_-
Update your vc_redist.x64.exe (google it). If it doestn help you, then update your visulstudio(VS) to new version.
I got it working [honestly, took me a while due to moving and whatnot] but holy crap I am not disappointed! Thanks, Choppy. :)
Glad u managed to play it. )
I got increasingly fed up with this game the more I played it. Whilst some scares are surprisingly effective (particularly ones that make use of stereo sound), it played its best cards way too early.
The fish-eye lens and constant chromatic abberation was a constant annoyance, and whilst I understand what you're trying to do by not letting us call the doctor or go against the floating text prompts, something about it isn't very engaging and made me feel like I was carting this person around to the next bit of story instead of experiencing it all for myself.
The final straw was the part with the green door and the three locks. Having to scramble through a pitch-black maze illuminated only by shambling figures coming to get you sounds like a great set up on paper, but all it amounts to is gathering them up in a conga line near the only safe light source, walking backwards and hoping that you stumble upon a key. Even if you did find a key, there'd be nowhere to get it, since you can't see in front of you until it's too late. I can't stop to draw a map or think about my next move either, since the game doesn't pause at all despite having a menu for it.
This sequence is so terrible that I struggle to beleive that it was made by the same developer as the first 20 minutes.
As for this being an accurate simulation of schizophrenia... I'm not sure. Whilst the essential elements are there, it's not worked into gameplay very well.
Not impressed.